interaction with cindy and i believe other members of the family on an elevator, and drew your own assessment of that, talk to me about it. >> i saw them get into the elevator, i got in with them. this is after some of the most emotional testimony by this family, and they rode down together, and lee and cindy were talking to each other in an animated fashion. george turned and faced the wall of the elevator with his nose almost at the wall, not the door but the wall of the elevator. this hit me that this family is, a, they are in collaboration with one another, and they're talking to one another, so they know what to say since cindy has been taking notes on the entire trial in an attempt to get casey off. the thing is it was proved pretty squarely that cindy was at work when these sinister searches were done for chloroform, for neck breaking, for acetone, for things that the prosecution says casey looked up in her plotting of the murder of the daughter, but think about this for a second because i was thinking about this today. think about these jurors in a room, because it is one thing to say you look up chloroform even if they proved that casey did that, but it another thing to prove that she actually went out and made the chloroform.